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The BEST soft and chewy bread roll for hoagies/submarines/grinders. Pillowy soft rolls that are begging to be filled with deliciousness!
*note this post was drastically updated on 1/20/2020 to include more step-by-step instructions and detailed explanations.
Depending on what part of the country, or world, you’re from these things are called various names. I’ve heard “Subs, Submarines, Hoagies, Grinders, Hero, Italian Sandwich, Torpedo, Blimpie, Po’Boy, and Rocket” just to name a few.
Whatever you call it, I’m talking about those luxurious sandwiches full of meats and cheeses then wedged into a chewy, soft bread roll.
Hoagie Roll Ingredient List
Bread Flour – it must be at least 11-14% protein content
Yeast – Active Dry or Instant
Water
Salt
Sugar
Butter
Items for a bread wash *optional
Can I use All-Purpose Flour?
Normally I’d advise against it because you’ll end up with a different texture and outcome.
However, given the current state of the world and the difficulty people are having finding bread flour, you can BUT there are differences in the outcome.
You won’t get the same result with US all-purpose flour as you would bread flour. The higher protein in bread flour is what gives the bread its “chew” and rise.
Plus, AP flour will make the bread denser. You can use it but they won’t be like classic hoagie rolls but they still will taste yummy.
Since bread flour is so hard to find (I’m feeling that pain too), grab some Vital Wheat Gluten and make your bread flour using your AP Flour.
One of the most comment comments I get when I ask why folks don’t make homemade bread at home is that they are afraid of it. They are afraid to work with yeast or aren’t sure about the techniques. Well, that’s where I’m here to help you.
Baking bread, rolls, and dough is something I honestly find truly cathartic. It’s relaxing albeit using the stand mixer or kneading the dough by hand. Because I use only Red Star Yeasts (99.9% of the time it’s their Platinum), it’s pretty foolproof.
Store your yeast in a dark, cool area. I tend to store mine in the fridge or the freezer for extended storage.
When adding it, add it to very warm liquids (120-130F). You don’t want to add it to boiling or super hot water as you will kill the yeast.
With the Instant Platinum yeast, you don’t even have to let it proof first – like how I added it to this recipe. Proofing yeast is used more for dry active yeast. Because I use the Instant Active Dry yeast, there’s no proofing involved.
To Proof, Active Dry Yeast, place a portion of the warm liquid in a bowl and add the yeast. Give it a little stir and let it sit for 1-5 minutes or until the yeast is completely dissolved. It should bubble up and “bloom”.
If, after 5 minutes the yeast isn’t bloomed then your yeast is old (expiration dates matter here!) or the liquid you used is too hot
The Best Hoagie Rolls at Home – yes, you can do it!
Feel good about working with yeast? You should. It’s really easy and just don’t be afraid! You can do this! Baking is a science and when you add ingredients it matters. Plus we need to discuss how humidity can affect how much water you put in.
Active Dry yeast
If using Active Dry Yeast (not the Instant I use) you have to proof the yeast first. Add the Active Dry Yeast, sugar, and 1/4 cup plus 2 Tablespoons of warm water in a bowl of a stand mixer. Using a whisk or spoon, mix and set aside for 5-10 minutes or until the yeast has bubbled quite a bit.
In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook (this would be the same bowl your yeast mixture is in) add 2 cups of flour and the remaining cup of water. Start off on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
Add in the salt and 1 cup at a time of the remaining flour and mix for 5-6 minutes until the dough is slack (See note). At this point, your mixer should be at medium speed. If your dough, after 5-6 minutes is not slack add up to 1/4 more cup of water (taking you up to a full 1 1/2 cups used) but add one Tablespoon at a time. The additional water will fully depend on how humid your room is.
Instant yeast
In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook add in 2 cups of flour, water, sugar, and Instant Yeast. Start off on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
Add in the salt and 1 cup at a time of the remaining flour and mix for 5-6 minutes until the dough is slack (See note). At this point, your mixer should be at medium speed. If your dough, after 5-6 minutes is not slack add up to 1/4 more cup of water (taking you up to a full 1 1/2 cups used) but add one Tablespoon at a time. The additional water will fully depend on how humid your room is.
Now, depending on the temp in the kitchen or how humid it is, you can add anywhere from 3 1/2 – 4 cups of flour. Just go slow. The worst thing you can do is add too much flour because you’re impatient. At this point, your dough should start to look and feel “Slack”
What is Slack Dough?
Think of a blob. It’s kind of fluid but it’s not liquidy. It’s the point where if you were to dump the dough out onto a board and try to form it into a shape, it would just blob back out and not hold a shape.
That’s what Slack Dough is. Slack dough means when the dough cannot hold a shape; it has no elasticity or spring back at all. It’s a wet dough but not too wet. It’s “billowy”. The dough is super, super soft, and smooth.
Below is what Slack dough looks like
How Humidity affects dough and bread baking
If your bread dough never turns slack there can be 2 reasons for this
You didn’t mix it enough. Give it another minute or two. If it still doesn’t turn slack, add a tablespoon of water at a time until it forms slack.
Your house is super dry – add a bit more water.
The rule of thumb is if your area is hot & humid then reduce the liquid by 10%.
Now, back to making the dough.
Once all the flour is added and the dough is slack, add in the butter one tablespoon at a time. Just like the flour, you’ll add it in slowly allowing it to incorporate into the dough. Don’t panic if it doesn’t go in all at once or the dough looks to break down. Just be patient, it’ll combine again. Patience – that’s the key.
Cold Butter or Softened Butter?
I was raised using cold butter in this recipe though you may use room temp or equal amounts of olive oil. When using cold butter, even though you ‘meld it into the flour’, you’re helping with gluten formation and the development of dough structure. I’ve made it with room-temperature butter and it works just as well. You can use either folks.
Once it’s mostly all in, turn the mixer up to medium and mix the dough until it pulls completely away from the side and is smooth and shiny.
Transfer the dough to a large, lightly sprayed bowl.
Cover with plastic wrap or use what I use – Disposable plastic clear shower caps. They have a stretchy-band that snaps around the bowl and remained ballooned to allow the dough to proof without sticking to it.
Once it’s doubled in size, it’s time to shape the hoagie rolls.
How to shape hoagie bread rolls
Punch the dough down and place on a very lightly floured board. I would advise using as little flour as possible when shaping these. The more flour you add, the tougher the hoagies will be.
Divide into 4-8 pieces and shape. *See below on how to shape!
Once shaped, transfer to a parchment-lined tray and cover with lightly sprayed plastic wrap. Allow to rise again until almost doubled. ~30-45 minutes. Do NOT overproof them otherwise they will fall flat.
What does Overproof mean?
In simple terms it means the was let to rise too long, It will almost “super balloon” in size. You’ll know you’ve over-proofed dough if, when you poke it for 2 seconds, remove your finger and see if it springs back. If your dough does not spring back, it’s over-proofed.
But that doesn’t mean all is lost. Simply remove the dough from where it was rising, degas it (meaning press down firmly on the dough to get rid of the gas), then re-shape. Place it back on your pan and repeat the second proofing.
Watch your dough – things like ambient temperature, humidity, etc will cause your dough to rise slower or faster. The 30-45 minutes is fairly standard time but you need to use your judgement in the kitchen.
Chef’s Tips on shaping hoagie rolls
Shaping does take practice but that’s the fun of baking, right?!
When you divide the dough, with your fingers, gently pat it into a rectangle where the dough is about 1/4″ thick.
Next, fold up the bottom third to the center and then fold the upper quarter (like an envelope) towards the center and press gently to seal.
Rotate the dough 180 degrees (so the last fold faces away from you) and repeat the above folding step then using your hand to seal the dough seams as you fold it. What you’re doing is folding the dough into itself.
At this point, your dough is almost shaped like a log/snake. Gently cup your hand over the center of the dough and, without applying pressure/pressing down, gently roll the dough back and forth to reinforce the seal and roll it out into a log. If necessary, gently pinch the seam closed.
I then grab the ends, lightly, and carefully pull them outwards to help stretch out dough (just an inch or so – again dependent on how long you want your rolls).
To help round out the ends, cup each hand at the end of the roll and move them in opposite directions with a back and forth motion to roll the ends and then tuck underneath the roll.
At this point, they are ready for the next rise.
Adding Slashes/Slits
While completely not necessary, you can add slashes/slits to the rolls before they bake to give them a prettier look. Cutting them adds zero taste value; it just pretties them up.
However, it does help with the texture. Did you ever make or buy bread that has a huge bubble or has a blowout? The bread “ruptures” in a sense. By scoring the bread, you can help control where the gas can escape without destroying how the bread looks.
A lame is a handle that has a very thin razor blade on the end of it specifically used for bread slashing. In a quick motion, make a slash (or multiple slashes) down the center of the bread but not go in deep. You’re going in maybe a 1/4″ at best.
Can I use a sharp knife instead?
Personally, I would say no as the blade isn’t thin enough and the knife may not be super, SUPER sharp. You could risk tearing the bread instead of a quick, pretty slash.
Coating your rolls before baking
You do not have to coat these if you do not want to. They will bake up beautifully and taste amazing BUT they won’t really have that deep color, crust, or shine like the ones most pizzerias have. Again, not a bad thing. Go with what you like.
When it comes to these rolls, depending on the application you use to coat, you’ll end up with different results. For my hoagie rolls, I use an egg white mixed with just a Tablespoon of milk
Whole egg: this will give your bread a sheen and color
Egg Yolk: this will give your bread color and will help brown it
Egg White:Will give you a firmer crust
Milk: will give your crust color
Butter:will make your crust softer and richer
Egg White with Milk:will give you a firmer crust and deeper crust color
The Best Hoagie Roll
Cutting your hoagie rolls
At first cut, the bread insides are so soft and billowy. It’s as if it’s held together by pockets of air and strands of sweet dough.
While it’s hard to resist, I HIGHLY recommend waiting about 10 minutes before trying to slice into these hoagie rolls. If you don’t, you risk tearing the bread (even with the best bread knives) because it’s simply too hot and too soft inside.
There’s no limit to how you can use these hoagie rolls or what you can put in or on them.
Italian Rocket Hoagie or any favorite hoagie topping such as steak, meatball, cheese, pizza… you get the idea!)
Meatball Hoagie like the pics below – use any of my meatball recipes, top with sauce of choice, cheese, and bake at 400F for 10-15 minutes or until the cheese is melted
French Bread Pizza – split in half, top each side with cheese and pizza toppings. Bake at 400F until the cheese is melted
Stuffed Breakfast Boats – these were such a HUGE seller at our pizzeria (even though they were on the ‘secret’ menu
Make them smaller as dinner rolls and, while still warm, top with honey cinnamon butter right before serving
How to store your Best Soft and Chewy Hoagie Rolls
Store them uncut. When you’re storing overnight, you’ll want to store in a paper bag OR, wrapped tightly in plastic wrap and then in a plastic bag. Air is your enemy here.
Freezing
These rolls can be frozen either before they are baked or after.
Post-baking
I personally prefer to freeze these after they are baked. Simply wrap each cooled loaf in plastic wrap, twice and place it in a freezer-safe bag for up to 3 months.
Pre-baking
If you do this add a little more yeast (about a teaspoon more) to the recipe. This ensures that the post-freeze rise will give you a stunning result.
Allow the dough to proof and then shape it on a parchment-lined pan.
Wrap the pan with plastic wrap. Once each loaf is frozen stiff, wrap each roll twice in plastic wrap. Store in a freezer-safe bag for up to 6 months.
To use frozen dough rolls, remove a loaf from the freezer the night before you want to bake it. Keep the loaf wrapped in plastic and let it thaw overnight in the refrigerator.
Place the thawed dough in a greased bread pan, cover it, and let it rise in a warm, dry place. Bake the bread per the recipe below.
Chef Tips About Bread Baking
As mentioned above, humidity and heat in your kitchen will drastically affect the dough texture (too wet/too dry while mixing) as well as proofing.
If your kitchen is warmer, your bread will rise faster. Think of bread dough like a toddler. You really can’t let it be unsupervised for very long. Use the times as a guideline but your eyes will be your best judge.
If you overproof your dough it will fall flat when it bakes. The gluten structure will be too weak to hold the gas production.
USE GENTLE HANDS when shaping your dough.
Make sure your yeast is FRESH!
Watch your oven as it bakes. If your oven thermostat is on the fritz this can affect your bread either baking too fast leading to burnt bread on the outside and raw on the inside.
Just relax. If you don’t get it perfect the first time, try again. Ask questions if you’re not sure what went wrong. The biggest things are:
Not mixing your dough enough before the first proof
Too rough on shaping it and you lost the gas in it
Over proofed the 2nd shape and the bread went flat upon baking
Your oven thermostat is on the fritz
PATIENCE – BE PATIENT and keep dumping in more flour or water. Rome wasn’t built in a day, just as the dough won’t come together in a minute or two.
Subbing Sourdough Starter
I get asked this question a lot. I never use sourdough starter in this recipe as I love it as-is however you can sub in sourdough starter with some recipe modifications.
8 ounces of ripened sourdough starter
Reduce the total flour to 334-339 grams
Reduce the total water to 177-237 grams
Using Whole Wheat Flour
So the answer is yes, but you have to modify it and play with the texture to get it right. Let me explain.
You only use 3/4 cup of whole wheat for every 1 cup of flour substituted. AND,
I’ve YET to go full whole wheat and end up loving the flavor. I, right now, ONLY recommend subbing in 50% whole wheat and the rest flour (again you need to use the measurements in step 1). AND,
You’ll need to add another 2 Tablespoons of water for every 3/4 cup of whole wheat flour added.
And don’t forget to factor in humidity too with this.
I personally have yet to have an OMGYUM moment when making the recipe with a 100% whole wheat swap. It’s still too dense for my liking. Then again, 100% wheat bread tends to be dense in general (at least in my experience).
I’m still working on it though I believe I can nail it and get the results I want and love.
If using Active Dry Yeast (not the Instant I use) you have to proof the yeast first. Add the Active Dry Yeast, sugar, and 1/4 cup plus 2 Tablespoon of warm water in a bowl of a stand mixer.
Using a whisk or spoon, mix and set aside for 5-10 minutes or until the yeast has bubbled quite a bit.
In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook (this would be the same bowl your yeast mixture is in) add 2 cups of flour and the remaining cup of water. Start off on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
Go to Step 1 of Recipe Continuation and follow the rest of the recipe
Using Instant Yeast? Start here
In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook add in 2 cups of flour, water, sugar, and Instant Yeast. Start off on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
Go to Step 1 of Recipe Continuation and follow the rest of the recipe.
Recipe Continuation
Add in the salt and 1 cup at a time of the remaining flour and mix for 5-6 minutes until the dough is slack (See note). At this point, your mixer should be at medium speed. If your dough, after 5-6 minutes is not slack add up to 1/4 more cup of water (taking you up to a full 1 1/2 cups used) but add one Tablespoon at a time. The additional water will fully depend on how humid your room is.
Add in the butter 1 Tablespoon at a time and mix until almost fully melded in before adding the next Tablespoon. In total, mix for 1-3 minutes or until the dough comes back together and the dough until it pulls completely away from the side and is smooth and shiny. Remove from bowl and transfer to a greased, covered bowl until doubled in size. ~1 hour.
Punch the dough down and place it on a very lightly floured board. Divide into 4-8 pieces and shape. I would advise using as little flour as possible when shaping these. The more flour you add, the tougher the hoagies will be. Transfer to a parchment-lined tray and cover with lightly sprayed plastic wrap. Allow to rise again until almost doubled. ~30-45 minutes. Do NOT overproof them otherwise they will fall flat.
Preheat the oven to 375 F. If you want to slash your bread, using a lame, make your slashes. If desired, brush with a coating of choice and bake for 16-23 minutes or until golden brown. To ensure doneness, test the internal bread temp. It should be at 200F.
Depending on the type of bread flour as well as how humid your kitchen is you may need to increase the water to 1 1/2 cups (which is only another 2 tablespoons more than the original). At times I’ve had to actually go up to 1 3/4 cups total but that was due to how humid my house was at the time.
Cold Butter
I was raised using cold butter in this recipe though you may use softened or equal amounts of olive oil. When using cold butter, even though you ‘meld it into the flour’, you’re helping with gluten formation and the development of dough structure.
Slack Dough
Slack dough means when the dough cannot hold a shape; it has no elasticity or spring back at all. It’s a wet dough but not too wet. It’s “billowy”. The dough is super, super soft, and smooth.
really really really good. just be careful the dough is wicked fragile after it’s raised. I bake mine in the oven on a special baguette pan and with plenty of steam. comes out great.
I also triple the recipe for 10 rolls
“Wicked fragile”? It’s like any other dough – almost all dough is delicate and shouldn’t be man-handled after the rise. This dough is roughly a 68% hydration which makes it softer but that’s what you want in this type of recipe. I love the idea of a baguette pan. Curious – did you add something to the bottom of the pan (assuming it’s perforated) like semolina prior to putting the loaves on for baking?
I found your recipe in a search to make sub sandwiches for my kids for school lunches. It did not disappoint. They came home everyday last week saying their lunches were “AMAZING”! This will become a new staple in our house.
My dough is incredibly stretchy and quite sticky – which seems different from the slack picture you provided above. Does that seem right? I’m using Kamut white flour (14% protein) so I’m wondering if it’s because of that or if I haven’t mixed enough.
Typically Kamut is a 1:1 swap for a high protein bread flour. So slack isn’t stretchy at all but rather “blobby”. Meaning it won’t hold a shape at all. Did you get to the point where you added the butter? The dough, before you put it into the bowl to proof should have pulled away from the sides and be tacky but not “super sticky”. Also, tell me about your kitchen temp – humid or not?
It sounds like it’s not mixed long enough to be honest.
Hi! It’s on the back burner for now. They’ve all turned out too “heavy” for my liking. I’m close but it’s not quite up to my standards yet. Right now I had to walk away from testing it out and give it rest that way when I go back to it I can be refreshed and not frustrated 🙂
Sorry but you’re mistaken. Active Dry Yeast and Instant Yeast are the same measurement. The only difference is that active dry yeast you activate and proof where instant you do not.
Active Dry yeast granules are a bit larger than the Instant/Rapid-Rise. Active Dry yeast requires a proofing stage before you attempt to starting mixing your dough. You need to ‘bloom’ it in a warm liquid (and possibly sugar) to help it start to bubble. Typically this takes 5-15 minutes for it start working its magic and it’s actually pretty cool. If you sit there and watch, you can see it forming bubbles and watch it ‘grow’. If you add too hot of water you can kill it. This, along with old yeast, is often the biggest reason why doughs/breads turn out dense or don’t rise.
Instant/Rapid-Rise yeast are smaller granules that do not require that proofing time. You can add it straight to the dry ingredients and the dough will still rise. Now keep in mind you still need to control how hot the liquid is that you’re adding to the mixture as to not kill it.
So honestly, I see no real performance difference between Active Dry versus Instant/Rapid-Rise. They both make the dough rise and there’s no difference in the taste or texture. The only difference is the time it takes to make the dough. If you go with the Active Dry, add 10-15 minutes of proofing before you proceed to make the dough.
Wow! I definitely have some shaping to work on, but I know that will come. This may not have been the easiest recipe for me. However, I think most bread recipes require some base knowledge on bread, but after I remembered what I know about bread making all was well. Came together quickly with quick rise times. This is a keeper!
this is one of the best recipes I have ever made! I’m new to breads and I love and appreciate how you explain everything…including what it will look like at each step!
really really really good. just be careful the dough is wicked fragile after it’s raised. I bake mine in the oven on a special baguette pan and with plenty of steam. comes out great.
I also triple the recipe for 10 rolls
“Wicked fragile”? It’s like any other dough – almost all dough is delicate and shouldn’t be man-handled after the rise. This dough is roughly a 68% hydration which makes it softer but that’s what you want in this type of recipe. I love the idea of a baguette pan. Curious – did you add something to the bottom of the pan (assuming it’s perforated) like semolina prior to putting the loaves on for baking?
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I found your recipe in a search to make sub sandwiches for my kids for school lunches. It did not disappoint. They came home everyday last week saying their lunches were “AMAZING”! This will become a new staple in our house.
That means so much to me; thank you! Just so you know, you can use this same recipe to make dinner rolls, soup bowls, and even burger buns too!
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My dough is incredibly stretchy and quite sticky – which seems different from the slack picture you provided above. Does that seem right? I’m using Kamut white flour (14% protein) so I’m wondering if it’s because of that or if I haven’t mixed enough.
Typically Kamut is a 1:1 swap for a high protein bread flour. So slack isn’t stretchy at all but rather “blobby”. Meaning it won’t hold a shape at all. Did you get to the point where you added the butter? The dough, before you put it into the bowl to proof should have pulled away from the sides and be tacky but not “super sticky”. Also, tell me about your kitchen temp – humid or not?
It sounds like it’s not mixed long enough to be honest.
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I’m newto baking bread. This recipe is our family favorite so far. I’m baking a batch now. I turned these into dinner rolls.
Oh awesome! What I love also about this recipe is that it’s truly versatile!
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Can I make these by hand if I do not have a mixer?
Of course; that’s how I was raised making them. It just will take considerably longer but it’s a great hand workout.
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did u figure out the all whole wheat yet
Hi! It’s on the back burner for now. They’ve all turned out too “heavy” for my liking. I’m close but it’s not quite up to my standards yet. Right now I had to walk away from testing it out and give it rest that way when I go back to it I can be refreshed and not frustrated 🙂
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Active dry yeast and instant are not equal You only listed the amount for instant not everyone will know this
Sorry but you’re mistaken. Active Dry Yeast and Instant Yeast are the same measurement. The only difference is that active dry yeast you activate and proof where instant you do not.
Active Dry yeast granules are a bit larger than the Instant/Rapid-Rise. Active Dry yeast requires a proofing stage before you attempt to starting mixing your dough. You need to ‘bloom’ it in a warm liquid (and possibly sugar) to help it start to bubble. Typically this takes 5-15 minutes for it start working its magic and it’s actually pretty cool. If you sit there and watch, you can see it forming bubbles and watch it ‘grow’. If you add too hot of water you can kill it. This, along with old yeast, is often the biggest reason why doughs/breads turn out dense or don’t rise.
Instant/Rapid-Rise yeast are smaller granules that do not require that proofing time. You can add it straight to the dry ingredients and the dough will still rise. Now keep in mind you still need to control how hot the liquid is that you’re adding to the mixture as to not kill it.
So honestly, I see no real performance difference between Active Dry versus Instant/Rapid-Rise. They both make the dough rise and there’s no difference in the taste or texture. The only difference is the time it takes to make the dough. If you go with the Active Dry, add 10-15 minutes of proofing before you proceed to make the dough.
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Wow! I definitely have some shaping to work on, but I know that will come. This may not have been the easiest recipe for me. However, I think most bread recipes require some base knowledge on bread, but after I remembered what I know about bread making all was well. Came together quickly with quick rise times. This is a keeper!
You got this! So happy you loved it!
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this is one of the best recipes I have ever made! I’m new to breads and I love and appreciate how you explain everything…including what it will look like at each step!
thank you!!
Thank you so much!!!
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trying this now. waiting on first rise.
Awesome!
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