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Jul 2 2012

Best Super Soft and Chewy Hoagie Rolls

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The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

The BEST soft and chewy bread roll for hoagies/submarines/grinders. Pillowy soft rolls that are begging to be filled with deliciousness!

Truly The Best Hoagie Roll Recipe

As a Chef and Pizzaiola with over 35 years of professional experience, I know hoagie rolls. This recipe has been in my family for generations. It is versatile (think dinner rolls or bread bowls for soup) and also makes the absolute best hoagie roll. We’re talking pizzeria/sub-shop-style hoagies.

The inside is super fluffy and chewy with a slight crust out the outside. Whether you eat them as a cold sub or as a toasted Italian hoagie, you will never need to step into a sub shop again!

TKW Family Love

2nd time I’m making this recipe. It comes out perfect each time!! I made Philly Cheesesteaks with them and honestly can’t get enough!!! Thank you for sharing this beautiful recipe!

Alessandra Abate


This is a VERY detailed post with a ton of tips, techniques, and tutorials. I strongly advise you to read the post BEFORE you make the rolls. Yes, it’s a VERY easy recipe, but I tried to address many of your FAQs. For ease of reading, I’ve sectioned it as follows:

  • Can I use All-Purpose Flour?
  • Using Active Dry Yeast
  • Using Instant Yeast
  • Slack Dough
  • How To Shape Hoagie Buns
  • Coating Hoagie Rolls
  • Chef’s Tips
  • Freezing Pre and Post Baking Hoagie Rolls
  • Cold-Fermenting Dough (overnight rise)
  • How to Substitute Sourdough Starter

Depending on what part of the country or world you’re from, these things are called various names.  I’ve heard “Subs, Submarines, Hoagies, Grinders, Hero, Italian Sandwich, Torpedo, Blimpie, Po’Boy, and Rocket” just to name a few. 

Whatever you call it, I’m talking about those luxurious sandwiches full of meats and cheeses, then wedged into a chewy, soft bread roll.

Hoagie Bun Ingredients

  • Bread Flour – it must be at least 11-14% protein content
  • Yeast – Active Dry or Instant
  • Water
  • Salt
  • Sugar
  • Butter
  • Items for a bread wash *optional

Can I use All-Purpose Flour?

I’d advise against it because you’ll end up with a different texture and outcome. Yes, you can, but there are differences in the outcome.

  • You won’t get the same result with US all-purpose flour as you would bread flour. The higher protein in bread flour is what gives the bread its “chew” and rise
  • Plus, AP flour will make the bread denser. You can use it, but they won’t be like classic hoagie rolls, but they still will taste yummy

If bread flour is hard to find, grab some Vital Wheat Gluten and make your bread flour using your AP Flour.

I have the formula on my blog. Check out this post on how to make your own bread flour.

Working with yeast – no fears, you got this!

One of the comments I get most when I ask why folks don’t make homemade bread at home is that they are afraid of it. They are either afraid to work with yeast or unsure about the techniques. Well, that’s where I’m here to help you.

Baking bread, rolls, and dough is something I honestly find truly cathartic. It’s relaxing using the stand mixer or kneading the dough by hand. It’s pretty foolproof because I use only Red Star Yeasts (99.9% of the time it’s their Platinum).

  • Store your yeast in a dark, cool area. I tend to store mine in the fridge or the freezer for extended storage.
  • When adding it, add it to very warm liquids (120-130°F). You don’t want to add it to boiling or super-hot water as you will kill the yeast.
  • With the Instant Platinum yeast, you don’t even have to let it proof first – like how I added it to this recipe. Because I use the Instant Active Dry yeast, there’s no proofing involved.
    • To Proof, Active Dry Yeast, place a portion of the warm liquid in a bowl and add the yeast. Give it a little stir and let it sit for 1-5 minutes or until the yeast is completely dissolved. It should bubble up and “bloom”
  • If, after 5 minutes, the yeast isn’t bloome,d then your yeast is old (expiration dates matter here!) or the liquid you used is too hot
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TKW Family Love

Well, this recipe was a big ole SUCCESS!!! Gosh, rave reviews all around and even my uncle — a Jimmy John’s aficionado — said this was the best bread they’ve ever had. ONLY alteration I did was use lard over butter.. because that’s what I usually do for bread minus foccacia of course! 😆
Thank you so much for this very well explained guide! I’ll admit, I’ve got a lot of bread baking under my belt but I always struggled with the shaping part of the equation. Followed your directions and boom, perfect lil’ hoagies. I’m going to try cold fermenting them next time for an even more delicious flavor, I can’t imagine them getting any better though!


Julia


How to make a Hoagie Roll

Feel good about working with yeast? You should. It’s really easy, and just don’t be afraid! You can do this!  Baking is a science, and when you add ingredients, it matters. Plus we need to discuss how humidity can affect how much water you put in.

Active Dry yeast

  1. If using Active Dry Yeast (not the Instant I use) you have to proof the yeast first. Add the Active Dry Yeast, sugar, and 1/4 cup plus 2 Tablespoons of warm water in a bowl of a stand mixer. Using a whisk or spoon, mix and set aside for 5-10 minutes or until the yeast has bubbled quite a bit.
  2. In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook (this would be the same bowl your yeast mixture is in) add 2 cups of flour and the remaining cup of water. Start on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
  3. Add in the salt and 1 cup at a time of the remaining flour and mix for 5-6 minutes until the dough is slack (See note). At this point, your mixer should be at medium speed. If your dough, after 5-6 minutes is not slack add up to 1/4 more cup of water (taking you up to a full 1 1/2 cups used) but add one Tablespoon at a time. The additional water will fully depend on how humid your room is.

Instant yeast

  1. In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook add in 2 cups of flour, water, sugar, and Instant Yeast.  Start on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
  2. Add in the salt and 1 cup at a time of the remaining flour and mix for 5-6 minutes until the dough is slack (See note). At this point, your mixer should be at medium speed. If your dough, after 5-6 minutes is not slack add up to 1/4 more cup of water (taking you up to a full 1 1/2 cups used) but add one Tablespoon at a time. The additional water will fully depend on how humid your room is.

Now, depending on the temp in the kitchen or how humid it is, you can add anywhere from 3 1/2 – 4 cups of flour. Just go slow. The worst thing you can do is add too much flour because you’re impatient. At this point, your dough should start to look and feel “Slack”

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

What is Slack Dough?

Think of a blob. It’s kind of fluid but it’s not liquidy. It’s the point where if you were to dump the dough out onto a board and try to form it into a shape, it would just blob back out and not hold a shape.

That’s what Slack Dough is. Slack dough means when the dough cannot hold a shape; it has no elasticity or spring back at all. It’s a wet dough but not too wet. It’s “billowy”. The dough is super, super soft, and smooth.

Below is what Slack dough looks like

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How Humidity affects dough and bread baking

If your bread dough never turns slack there can be 2 reasons for this

  • You didn’t mix it enough. Give it another minute or two. If it still doesn’t turn slack, add a tablespoon of water at a time until it forms slack.
  • Your house is super dry – add a bit more water.

The rule of thumb is if your area is hot & humid then reduce the liquid by 10%. Now, back to making the dough.

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll
  1. Once all the flour is added and the dough is slack, add in the butter one tablespoon at a time. Just like the flour, you’ll add it in slowly allowing it to incorporate into the dough. Don’t panic if it doesn’t go in all at once or the dough looks to break down. Just be patient, it’ll combine again. Patience – that’s the key.

Cold Butter or Softened Butter?

I was raised using cold butter in this recipe though you may use room temp or equal amounts of olive oil. When using cold butter, even though you ‘meld it into the flour’, you’re helping with gluten formation and the development of dough structure. I’ve made it with room-temperature butter and it works just as well. You can use either folks.

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  1. Once it’s mostly all in, turn the mixer up to medium and mix the dough until it pulls completely away from the side and is smooth and shiny.
  2. Transfer the dough to a large, lightly sprayed bowl.
  3. Cover with plastic wrap or use what I use – Disposable plastic clear shower caps. They have a stretchy band that snaps around the bowl and remains ballooned to allow the dough to proof without sticking to it.
  4. Once it’s doubled in size, it’s time to shape the hoagie rolls.

How to shape Hoagie Buns

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

  1. Punch the dough down and place on a very lightly floured board. I would advise using as little flour as possible when shaping these. The more flour you add, the tougher the hoagies will be.
  2. Divide into 4-8 pieces and shape. *See below on how to shape!
  3. Once shaped, transfer to a parchment-lined tray and cover with lightly sprayed plastic wrap. Allow to rise again until almost doubled. ~30-45 minutes. Do NOT overproof them otherwise they will fall flat.

What does Overproof mean?

In simple terms it means the dough was left to rise too long, It will almost “super balloon” in size. You’ll know you’ve over-proofed dough if, when you poke it for 2 seconds, remove your finger and see if it springs back. If your dough does not spring back, it’s over-proofed.

But that doesn’t mean all is lost. Simply remove the dough from where it was rising, degas it (meaning press down firmly on the dough to get rid of the gas), then re-shape. Place it back on your pan and repeat the second proofing.

Watch your dough – things like ambient temperature, humidity, etc will cause your dough to rise slower or faster. The 30-45 minutes is fairly standard time but you need to use your judgment in the kitchen.

TKW Family Love

I just pulled my rolls from the oven. They turned out perfectly! The recipe is very clear and easy to follow. I just tested a roll to make sure it wasn’t poisonous and ohhhhh my goodness…..soft and pillowey on the inside, and a nice soft yet chewy outside. Not chewy but a good bite to it. It is going to be perfect for my leftover prime rib to make French dip sandwiches for supper. Thank you!

Christina Jackson


Chef’s Tips on shaping hoagie rolls

Shaping does take practice, but that’s the fun of baking, right?!

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll
  1. After you divide the dough into your pieces (4-8), with your fingers, gently pat it into a rectangle where the dough is about 1/4″ thick.
  2. Next, fold the bottom third to the center, then fold the upper quarter (like an envelope) towards the center, and press gently to seal.
  3. Rotate the dough 180 degrees (so the last fold faces away from you), repeat the above folding step, and use your hand to seal the dough seams as you fold it. What you’re doing is folding the dough into itself.
  4. At this point, your dough is almost shaped like a log/snake. Gently cup your hand over the center of the dough and, without pressing down, roll the dough back and forth to reinforce the seal, then roll it out into a log. If necessary, gently pinch the seam closed.
  5. Grab the ends and lightly, carefully pull them outwards to stretch the dough (just an inch or so – again, depending on how long you want your rolls).
  6. To help round out the ends, cup each hand at the end of the roll and move them in opposite directions with a back-and-forth motion to roll the ends and then tuck them underneath the roll. At this point, they are ready for the next rise.

Adding Slashes/Slits

While completely not necessary, you can add slashes/slits to the rolls before they bake to give them a prettier look. Cutting them adds zero taste value; it just pretties them up. 

However, it does help with the texture. Did you ever make or buy bread that has a huge bubble or has a blowout? The bread “ruptures” in a sense. By scoring the bread, you can help control where gas can escape without ruining its appearance.

Bread Lame

A lame is a handle with a very thin razor blade at the end, specifically used for slashing bread.  In a quick motion, make a slash (or multiple slashes) down the center of the bread, but do not go in deep. You’re going in maybe a 1/4″ at best.

I use a Lame to do mine.

Can I use a sharp knife instead?

I would say no, as the blade isn’t thin enough, and the knife may not be super, SUPER sharp. You could risk tearing the bread instead of a quick, pretty slash.

Coating your rolls before baking

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

You do not have to coat these if you do not want to. They will bake up beautifully and taste amazing, BUT they won’t really have that deep color, crust, or shine like the ones most pizzerias have. Again, not a bad thing. Go with what you like.

When it comes to these rolls, the application you use to coat them will determine the results. For my hoagie rolls, I use an egg white mixed with just a Tablespoon of milk

  • Whole egg: This will give your bread a sheen and color
  • Egg Yolk: This will give your bread color and will help brown it
  • Egg White: Will give you a firmer crust
  • Milk: will give your crust color
  • Butter: will make your crust softer and richer
  • Egg White with Milk: will give you a firmer crust and deeper crust color
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Cutting your hoagie rolls

At first cut, the bread insides are so soft and billowy.  It’s as if it’s held together by pockets of air and strands of sweet dough. 

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

While it’s hard to resist, I HIGHLY recommend waiting about 10 minutes before slicing into these hoagie rolls. If you don’t, you risk tearing the bread (even with the best bread knives) because it’s simply too hot and too soft inside.

Trust me on this, it’s worth the wait!

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

I would HIGHLY recommend using a quality bread knife to slice these, as the rolls are soft and chewy, and nothing is worse than cutting into them with a crappy knife! You’ll love this knife! Sani-Safe S162-8SC-PCP 8″ Scalloped Bread Knife with Polypropylene Handle Pan is a great knife that’s affordable!

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

Chef Tips About Bread Baking

  • As mentioned above, humidity and heat in your kitchen will drastically affect the dough texture (too wet/too dry while mixing) and proofing.
  • If your kitchen is warmer, your bread will rise faster. Think of bread dough like a toddler. You really can’t let it be unsupervised for very long. Use the times as a guideline, but your eyes will be your best judge.
  • If you overproof your dough, it will fall flat when it bakes. The gluten structure will be too weak to hold the gas production.
  • USE GENTLE HANDS when shaping your dough.
  • Make sure your yeast is not expired!
  • Watch your oven as it bakes. If your oven thermostat is on the fritz, it can affect your bread: either it bakes too fast, leading to burnt bread on the outside or raw bread on the inside.
  • Just relax. If you don’t get it perfect the first time, try again. Ask questions if you’re not sure what went wrong. The biggest things are:
    • Not mixing your dough enough before the first proof
    • If you’re too rough on shaping it, you lose the gas in it
    • Overproofed the 2nd shape, and the bread went flat upon baking
    • Your oven thermostat is on the fritz
  • PATIENCE – BE PATIENT and keep dumping in more flour or water. Rome wasn’t built in a day, just as the dough won’t come together in a minute or two.

There’s no limit to how you can use these hoagie rolls or what you can put in or on them.

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

How to serve Homemade Hoagie Rolls

  • Italian Rocket Hoagie or any favorite hoagie topping such as steak, meatball, cheese, pizza… you get the idea!)
  • Meatball Hoagie like the pics below – use any of my meatball recipes, top with sauce of choice, cheese, and bake at 400F for 10-15 minutes or until the cheese is melted
  • French Bread Pizza – split in half, top each side with cheese and pizza toppings. Bake at 400F until the cheese is melted
  • Stuffed Breakfast Boats – these were such a HUGE seller at our pizzeria (even though they were on the ‘secret’ menu
  • Make them smaller as dinner rolls and, while still warm, top with honey cinnamon butter right before serving

How to store your Best Soft and Chewy Hoagie Rolls

Store them uncut.  When you’re storing overnight, you’ll want to store it in a paper bag OR, wrapped tightly in plastic wrap and then in a plastic bag. Air is your enemy here.

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

How to Freeze Hoagie Rolls

These rolls can be frozen either before or after baking.

Post-baking

  • I prefer to freeze these after they are baked. Simply wrap each cooled loaf in plastic wrap twice and place it in a freezer-safe bag for up to 3 months.

Pre-baking

  1. If you do this, add a little more yeast (about a teaspoon more) to the recipe. This ensures that the post-freeze rise will give you a stunning result.
  2. Allow the dough to proof and then shape it on a parchment-lined pan.
  3. Wrap the pan with plastic wrap. Once each loaf is frozen stiff, wrap each roll twice in plastic wrap. Store in a freezer-safe bag for up to 6 months.
  4. To use frozen dough rolls, remove a loaf from the freezer the night before you want to bake it. Keep the loaf wrapped in plastic and let it thaw overnight in the refrigerator.
  5. Place the thawed dough in a greased bread pan, cover it, and let it rise in a warm, dry place. Bake the bread per the recipe below.
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Cold Fermenting Your Dough

If you want, you can also cold-ferment this dough as soon as it comes together!

  1. Once the mixture is combined and forms a soft/smooth bread ball, you can add it to a buttered bowl/lidded large container and refrigerate it overnight.
  2. The next day, remove the container from the fridge to perform the first rise. Then, punch down, shape, and allow it to proof a second time. *Note: it will take longer to rise initially as it will be cold.

Subbing Sourdough Starter

I get asked this question a lot. I never use sourdough starter in this recipe, as I love it as-is; however, you can substitute sourdough starter with some recipe modifications.

  • 8 ounces of ripened sourdough starter
  • Reduce the total flour to 334-339 grams
  • Reduce the total water to 177-237 grams
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Using Whole Wheat Flour

So the answer is yes, but you have to modify it and play with the texture to get it right. Let me explain.

  1. You only use 3/4 cup of whole wheat for every 1 cup of flour substituted. AND,
  2. I’ve yet to use all whole wheat and am loving the flavor. I currently recommend substituting 50% whole wheat for the rest of the flour (again, using the measurements in step 1). AND,
  3. You’ll need to add another 2 Tablespoons of water for every 3/4 cup of whole wheat flour added.
  4. And don’t forget to factor in humidity, too.

I have yet to have an OMG YUM moment when making the recipe with a 100% whole wheat swap. It’s still too dense for my liking. Then again, 100% wheat bread tends to be thick in general (at least in my experience).

I’m still working on it, but I’m confident I can nail it and achieve the results I want and love.

TKW Family Love

Ok, since finding this recipe a few weeks ago, I have made these at least once a week. I have made many many bread recipes before, but nothing that my family ever requested so much! Seriously, this recipe is amazing! And so forgiving! I’ve added extra flour, and too much water and I’ve tried every wash possible (our favorite is whole egg) and each time they are just outstanding. I’ve shared this post with quite a few friends as well. I’ll never buy rolls again.

Lauren


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The BEST soft and chewy bread roll for hoagies/submarine/grinders. Pillowy soft rolls that are begging to be filled with deliciousness!

  • Author: The Kitchen Whisperer
  • Prep Time: 2 hours
  • Cook Time: 25 minutes
  • Total Time: 2 hours 25 minutes
  • Yield: 4-8 rolls depending on how big you want them
  • Category: Bread
  • Method: oven
  • Cuisine: baking

Ingredients

  • 3 1/2 – 4 cups bread flour/448-512 grams *see note
  • 1 1/4 cups plus 2 tablespoon – 1 1/2 cups warm water (110-115F degrees) / 308-355 grams *see note
  • 2 Tablespoons / 25 grams of sugar
  • 1 packet instant yeast (2 1/4 teaspoon of RedStar Platinum Yeast) / 7 grams
  • 1 teaspoon kosher salt / 6 grams
  • 4 Tablespoons / 56 grams cold unsalted butter, cubed *see note

Instructions

Using Active Dry Yeast? Start here

  1. If using Active Dry Yeast (not the Instant I use), you have to proof the yeast first. Add the Active Dry Yeast, sugar, and 1/4 cup plus 2 tablespoons of warm water in the bowl of a stand mixer.
  2. Using a whisk or spoon, mix and set aside for 5-10 minutes or until the yeast has bubbled quite a bit.
  3. In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook (this would be the same bowl your yeast mixture is in) add 2 cups of flour and the remaining cup of water. Start on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
  4. Go to Step 1 of Recipe Continuation and follow the rest of the recipe

Using Instant Yeast? Start here

  1. In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook, add in 2 cups of flour, water, sugar, and Instant Yeast.  Start off on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
  2. Go to Step 1 of Recipe Continuation and follow the rest of the recipe.

Recipe Continuation

  1. Add in the salt and 1 cup at a time of the remaining flour and mix for 5-6 minutes until the dough is slack (See note). At this point, your stand mixer should be at medium speed. If your dough is not slack after 5-6 minutes, add up to 1/4 more cup of water (up to a full 1 1/2 cups), but do so one Tablespoon at a time. The additional water will entirely depend on how humid your room is.
  2. Add in the butter 1 Tablespoon at a time and mix until almost fully melded in before adding the next Tablespoon.  In total, mix for 1-3 minutes, or until the dough comes back together and pulls completely away from the sides, leaving a smooth, shiny surface. Remove from bowl and transfer to a greased, covered bowl until doubled in size. ~1 hour.
  3. Punch the dough down and place it on a very lightly floured board. Divide into 4-8 pieces and shape. I would advise using as little flour as possible when shaping these. The more flour you add, the tougher the hoagies will be. Transfer to a parchment-lined tray and cover with lightly sprayed plastic wrap. Allow to rise again until almost doubled. ~30-45 minutes. Do NOT overproof them; they will fall flat.
  4. Preheat the oven to 375°F/190°C. If you want to slash your bread, use a lame to make your slashes. If desired, brush with a coating of choice and bake for 16-23 minutes or until golden brown. To ensure doneness, test the internal temperature of the bread. It should be at 200°F/93°C.
  5. Allow to cool before cutting with a quality bread knife ( Sani-Safe S162-8SC-PCP 8″ Scalloped Bread Knife with Polypropylene Handle Pan )

Notes

Flour & Water

Depending on the type of bread flour as well as how humid your kitchen is you may need to increase the water to 1 1/2 cups (which is only another 2 tablespoons more than the original). At times I’ve had to actually go up to 1 3/4 cups total but that was due to how humid my house was at the time.

Cold Butter

I was raised using cold butter in this recipe though you may use softened or equal amounts of olive oil. When using cold butter, even though you ‘meld it into the flour’, you’re helping with gluten formation and the development of dough structure.

Slack Dough

Slack dough means when the dough cannot hold a shape; it has no elasticity or spring back at all. It’s a wet dough but not too wet. It’s “billowy”. The dough is super, super soft, and smooth.

Equipment

I would HIGHLY recommend using a quality bread knife to slice these as the rolls are soft and chewy and nothing is worse when cutting into them with a crappy knife! You’ll love this knife! Sani-Safe S162-8SC-PCP 8″ Scalloped Bread Knife with Polypropylene Handle Pan

Coating your bread

  • Whole egg: this will give your bread a sheen and color
  • Egg Yolk: this will give your bread color and will help brown it
  • Egg White: Will give you a firmer crust
  • Milk: will give your crust color
  • Butter: will make your crust softer and richer

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  1. Gina
    October 12, 2013

    I made these this morning, to have with meatball subs tonight. They came out perfect!
    My husband was sitting at the kitchen table when they came out of the oven, and, of course, he tried one. He said, “You know, we really only need three rolls for sub sandwiches. There are eight rolls here.”
    So, I ended up putting three of the rolls aside, and between my husband, our daughter, and myself, we ate the other five rolls. With butter, and honey. Talk about heavenly! They’re delicious!
    Thank you so much for sharing your recipe!

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      October 12, 2013

      Gina,

      That’s so awesome to hear! Yeah I LOVE these rolls so much! They’ve been my go-to rolls for eons. And YUM on the butter and honey! Love it!

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
  2. Dawn
    October 11, 2013

    Thank you so much. I started baking bread before I was ten, and took my best lessons later from Tassajara bread book. I am very anxious to try this, and then see if I can adapt it to gluten free. So thank you very much, this makes it very clear

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      October 11, 2013

      You are most welcome! You sound like me! I was really, really little when my Mom taught me how to make bread from scratch. There’s something therapeutic from making it with your hands and kneading it. I’d love to hear how you were able to make it gluten free. I can make gluten free breads but when the bread has to be soft and chewy it’s really hard.

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
      1. Dawn
        October 11, 2013

        I don’t know that I can, but sure want to try! A lot of gluten intolerant folks in our circle who love breads! Thank you again! I will keep you posted

        Reply
  3. Dawn
    October 11, 2013

    I am curious as to the meaning of “slack” in this application. I have made bread for nearly 50 years, and am not familiar with my dough going “slack.” I do not use a mixer.

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    1. TKWAdmin
      October 11, 2013

      Hi Dawn!

      Wow, 50 years! God Bless you! That’s awesome! Slack dough means when then dough cannot hold a shape; it has no elasticity or spring back at all. It’s wet dough but not too wet. It’s “billowy”. The dough is super, super soft and smooth. Does that help?

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
  4. Jennt
    September 8, 2013

    Just made these…OMG they came out AMAZING….they didn’t look like the picture above, not shiny and glossy looking, but the bread texture was everything I had hoped for!! I buy sub rolls (they call them Steak Rolls) and spend up to $5.00 per week on them…I am SOOOOO excited to have found this recipe…and even more excited at how EASY it was and how AWESOME they came out….

    I used my bread machine….I just followed all of the steps as outlined above…just did steps 1-6 in the bread machine…dough cycle…and steps 7-11 exactly as described above…

    I’m making a second batch now….going to try it in a loaf pan…the texture is so good…and I think if it rises right in the loaf pan…I’m thinking AMAZING Grilled Cheese Sandwiches are in my future 🙂

    THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE RECIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      September 8, 2013

      Hi Jennt!

      Tee hee.. I love when people get so excited over having great success with a recipe of mine. That to me, is just priceless! I make these weekly. They also freeze beautifully!

      Oh cool on the loaf pan suggestion! Let me know how it works out for you! And Mmmmmmmmmmmm grilled cheese! I LOVE a great grilled cheese!

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
    2. Kambrie
      January 25, 2026

      Can you make with all purpose flour?

      Reply
      1. Lori
        January 25, 2026

        Hi Kambrie,

        I’ve addressed this in the post. It’s in the list of hyperlinked bullet points right after the first image. It more than a simple yes or no.

        Best Kitchen Wishes!

        Reply
  5. sarah n
    September 5, 2013

    Just wondering how much replacing half the flour with whaet flour would change the recipe? Any input?

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      September 5, 2013

      Hi Sarah,

      In order to ensure that your whole wheat loaves are as light as possible, be sure and measure out the flour with the spoon. In other words, don’t scoop it out of the bag or container with your measuring cup. Spoon the flour into the cup. This introduces air into the mixture from the start.

      (1) Use a baking method called a sponge. Proof the yeast. Gradually stir in about half the flour. Allow this mixture to sit, covered, for at least an hour. You can even leave it out overnight! This strengthens the gluten in the flour. The stronger the gluten, the better it can trap the carbon dioxide put off by the yeast. In other words, your bread will rise better. Then add the rest of the flour and proceed as usual.

      (2) Add some gluten flour when making breads to help the rising.

      Keep an eye on the liquid to flour ratio. Whole wheat flours (especially freshly ground whole wheat) will absorb liquids at a different rate than conventional white flours. Add additional flour and liquids in small portions (a tablespoon at a time). Don’t use too much flour. Whole wheat doughs will be slightly tacky. Allow the dough to rise twice before shaping it.

      Whole-wheat flour will make your baked products denser and heavier than regular flour does. Substituting whole wheat flour for white flour takes a little experimentation, but you will almost always be successful if you use 3/4 cup of whole wheat flour to replace 1 cup of all-purpose flour.

      When altering a white bread recipe to become whole wheat bread, you may need another 1/4 cup or so of liquid.

      Best Kitchen Wishes

      Reply
      1. Dorina
        September 14, 2014

        What great information for substituting wheat flour. I have never seen such clear guidelines. I use wheat (or half and half) as much as possible but I am always feeling uneasy about using recipes that are not laid out this way for fear that when I convert it will not turn out well. I am going to have to give these tips a try! I stumbled on your blog looking for a rolls recipe, after reading the comments (which often indicate whether a recipe is worth giving a shot in my mind) I will defiantly try these out and take a look around the blog. Thanks!

        Reply
        1. TKWAdmin
          September 14, 2014

          Hi Dorina and welcome to the TKW Family! I’ve had great success in making whole wheat rolls using my tips above. I’m also working on a whole grain version as well though it’s still in the testing phase. I need to make the same recipe a few more times to ensure consistency.

          Let me know how it turns out for you!

          Best Kitchen Wishes!

          Reply
      2. steve
        September 4, 2016

        great tip, thanks

        Reply
  6. johnny c.
    August 13, 2013

    I guess I cant say anything bad about it. When I wrote that I wrote it wrong. Thats 2 tsp salt and 1 and 1/4 of water.
    So it can be made with out a machine and using instant yeast..
    Be sure to use a scale and when shaping stretch further than short and fat because it will rise up and gain width.. awesome recipe I will be keeping this one. Thanks a bunch.

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      August 13, 2013

      Ah okay, yeah I was like “Whoa! That’s a lot of salt!” lol I’m thrilled your adaptations turned out! If you took pics, I’d love to see them! Either email them or post them on our facebook wall!

      Great tip about the scale! I’ve even used this recipe and made one giant hoagie ring (like those sandwich trays). EXCELLENT for parties and football season!

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
  7. johnny c.
    August 13, 2013

    Im trying this today with a few differences. I dont have a mixer and I prefer not to.
    So this is how I did it.
    4 1/2 cups bread flour
    2 tsp of instant yeast.
    2 tbl kosher salt
    1 1/2 warm water
    2 tbl oil
    2 tbl honey
    3 tbl unsalted butter small cubed

    I mixed all but butter. Then brought to table and kneaded for bout 5ish min.
    Last few kneads I added the cubed butter. Let ya know what happens in the end result.

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      August 13, 2013

      Hey Johnny!

      Love the adaptation of honey in lieu of sugar (I sub that out as well at times). I’m assuming you mixed this the old fashioned way with your hands? I love using my hands to make dough; helps get all those frustrations out! LOL

      Can’t wait to hear the end results!

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
    2. Josh
      January 24, 2014

      So, Johnny C, you basically didn’t make her dough/rolls at all… and you did it with an attitude of superiority (“I dont have a mixer and I prefer not to.”) I’m confused by your next statement, “awesome recipe I will be keeping this one. Thanks a bunch.” Are you thanking yourself for your own recipe?… because you changed every thing about TKWAdmin’s recipe. FWIW, I’ll be trying the recipe originally posted

      Kudos to TKWAdmin’s responses… classy (unlike my response here. sorry)

      Reply
      1. TKWAdmin
        January 24, 2014

        Hey Josh 🙂

        I didn’t take his response as mal or superior. People are free to adapt the recipe to best suit their tastes/interests. There are days when I prefer to make dough by hand, the way my grandma taught me, but since I make so much nowadays I would like to preserve my hands for my old age *wink*. I can remember when my Mom got her first stand mixer. Oh dear lord when my grandma saw that you would have though my mother was committing the worst crime ever! It was considered blasphemy to the baking world! LOL

        I, too, wasn’t sure what he meant about keeping the recipe – mine or his. *shrugs* As long as someone decides to get in the kitchen and try, that’s all I can ask for you know? People are often really scared to make bread or pie crust from scratch so when someone at least tries it, that brings a smile to my face.

        So please, let me know how the recipe turns out for. And if you have any things you changed, please let me know. The best way for all of us to learn to is share information. Ask questions and leave comments, right?

        Again, thank you for your post; that really means a lot to me. And BTW, it’s Lori 🙂

        Best Kitchen Wishes!

        Reply
  8. Caroline
    July 24, 2013

    THANK YOU SO MUCH for this recipe!!! My 16 year old made the dough using the bread maker. Since we recently purchased it we are always very happy to use it. Unfortunately she forgot to push the bowl all the way down the first time around and the ingredients did not mix together. I was concerned that the yeast would not work so well after an hour of sitting there. So she had to redo it and used 1/2 cup wheat flour because we ran out of bread flour. The taste was great and the bread was still super soft inside! I made sure she left the baking part for me. I baked the bread in 2 batches because I was not too sure how much the bread would grow during the baking. I baked the first four for just over 16 minutes and the second batch for 15 minutes. A note for anyone who has never made hoagie rolls like myself, the bread came out “hard” but will soften very nicely. Taking that 1 minute off made a big difference in terms of the softness of the bread (or maybe it was the additional 16 minutes it had to rise?). Either way this bread was AMAZING!

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      July 24, 2013

      Thank you so much Caroline! That is so awesome that they turned out for you guys! Yes the 1 minutes will make a difference. I love the fact that you incorporated wheat flour in it too!

      By the way, I have on here under Tips/Tricks/Flour posts on how to make your own bread flour (along with other flours) when you run out.
      https://www.thekitchenwhisperer.net/2013/05/04/how-to-make-bread-flour/

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
  9. Cal Kane
    July 13, 2013

    Already to make this and notice in the instructions the same issue I have with most bread recipes and that is no where does it say how large to roll out the individual pieces. Do you roll them six or eight inches or more/less?

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      July 13, 2013

      Cal,

      Sorry about that. The length is honestly your call. If you want shorter but fatter rolls, then roll them out about 4-5″. For standard size, go with 6-7″. Now if you want 12″ long ones, I would cut the dough into 6 pieces instead of 8 and then roll them into 12″ rolls.

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
      1. Sean
        October 2, 2016

        I tried to make rolls using your recipe over the weekend and they did not turn out like your picture. Still tasted amazing though.

        Reply
        1. TKWAdmin
          October 3, 2016

          Hi Sean,

          Shaping does take a little practice but you’ll get it!

          Best Kitchen Wishes!

          Reply
  10. Cookie Medeiros
    July 12, 2013

    These are the best hoagie buns I’ve ever made. We live in Hawaii and we made Kalua pig (roast pork) and made the most wonderful sandwhiches with them. A big MAHALO for the recipe!!!

    Cookie & Rusty Medeiros
    Makawao, Maui, HI

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      July 13, 2013

      Cookie & Rusty,

      Thank you so much! These are my go-to sub/hoagie rolls. They are just so tender and just seem to ‘melt’ into whatever you have stuffed in the middle of them. Mmmm your Kalua pig roast sounds divine!

      Now curious for our fellow TKW readers, living in Hawaii (color me JEALOUS by the way), did you have to adjust the baking time/temp at all?

      Mahalo and Best Kitchen Wishes to you both!

      Reply
    2. Colleen
      December 13, 2016

      FABULOUS!!!! I made these today for pulled pork sandwiches, and they are absolutely fantastic!! Easy to make and delicious! I followed the recipe exactly except I don’t have a bread machine so I used the old fashioned way of using my hands. LOL. Thanks so much for sharing this recipie. This will be my go to recipe from now on for hoagie style rolls!!

      Reply
      1. TKWAdmin
        December 14, 2016

        Thank you so much Colleen! I really appreciate that! And I LOVE that you went old school and made the dough by hand! It’s so therapeutic!

        Best Kitchen Wishes!

        Reply
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