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Jul 2 2012

Best Super Soft and Chewy Hoagie Rolls

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The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

The BEST soft and chewy bread roll for hoagies/submarines/grinders. Pillowy soft rolls that are begging to be filled with deliciousness!

Truly The Best Hoagie Roll Recipe

As a Chef and Pizzaiola with over 35 years of professional experience, I know hoagie rolls. This recipe has been in my family for generations. It is versatile (think dinner rolls or bread bowls for soup) and also makes the absolute best hoagie roll. We’re talking pizzeria/sub-shop-style hoagies.

The inside is super fluffy and chewy with a slight crust out the outside. Whether you eat them as a cold sub or as a toasted Italian hoagie, you will never need to step into a sub shop again!

TKW Family Love

2nd time I’m making this recipe. It comes out perfect each time!! I made Philly Cheesesteaks with them and honestly can’t get enough!!! Thank you for sharing this beautiful recipe!

Alessandra Abate


This is a VERY detailed post with a ton of tips, techniques, and tutorials. I strongly advise you to read the post BEFORE you make the rolls. Yes, it’s a VERY easy recipe, but I tried to address many of your FAQs. For ease of reading, I’ve sectioned it as follows:

  • Can I use All-Purpose Flour?
  • Using Active Dry Yeast
  • Using Instant Yeast
  • Slack Dough
  • How To Shape Hoagie Buns
  • Coating Hoagie Rolls
  • Chef’s Tips
  • Freezing Pre and Post Baking Hoagie Rolls
  • Cold-Fermenting Dough (overnight rise)
  • How to Substitute Sourdough Starter

Depending on what part of the country or world you’re from, these things are called various names.  I’ve heard “Subs, Submarines, Hoagies, Grinders, Hero, Italian Sandwich, Torpedo, Blimpie, Po’Boy, and Rocket” just to name a few. 

Whatever you call it, I’m talking about those luxurious sandwiches full of meats and cheeses, then wedged into a chewy, soft bread roll.

Hoagie Bun Ingredients

  • Bread Flour – it must be at least 11-14% protein content
  • Yeast – Active Dry or Instant
  • Water
  • Salt
  • Sugar
  • Butter
  • Items for a bread wash *optional

Can I use All-Purpose Flour?

I’d advise against it because you’ll end up with a different texture and outcome. Yes, you can, but there are differences in the outcome.

  • You won’t get the same result with US all-purpose flour as you would bread flour. The higher protein in bread flour is what gives the bread its “chew” and rise
  • Plus, AP flour will make the bread denser. You can use it, but they won’t be like classic hoagie rolls, but they still will taste yummy

If bread flour is hard to find, grab some Vital Wheat Gluten and make your bread flour using your AP Flour.

I have the formula on my blog. Check out this post on how to make your own bread flour.

Working with yeast – no fears, you got this!

One of the comments I get most when I ask why folks don’t make homemade bread at home is that they are afraid of it. They are either afraid to work with yeast or unsure about the techniques. Well, that’s where I’m here to help you.

Baking bread, rolls, and dough is something I honestly find truly cathartic. It’s relaxing using the stand mixer or kneading the dough by hand. It’s pretty foolproof because I use only Red Star Yeasts (99.9% of the time it’s their Platinum).

  • Store your yeast in a dark, cool area. I tend to store mine in the fridge or the freezer for extended storage.
  • When adding it, add it to very warm liquids (120-130°F). You don’t want to add it to boiling or super-hot water as you will kill the yeast.
  • With the Instant Platinum yeast, you don’t even have to let it proof first – like how I added it to this recipe. Because I use the Instant Active Dry yeast, there’s no proofing involved.
    • To Proof, Active Dry Yeast, place a portion of the warm liquid in a bowl and add the yeast. Give it a little stir and let it sit for 1-5 minutes or until the yeast is completely dissolved. It should bubble up and “bloom”
  • If, after 5 minutes, the yeast isn’t bloome,d then your yeast is old (expiration dates matter here!) or the liquid you used is too hot
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TKW Family Love

Well, this recipe was a big ole SUCCESS!!! Gosh, rave reviews all around and even my uncle — a Jimmy John’s aficionado — said this was the best bread they’ve ever had. ONLY alteration I did was use lard over butter.. because that’s what I usually do for bread minus foccacia of course! 😆
Thank you so much for this very well explained guide! I’ll admit, I’ve got a lot of bread baking under my belt but I always struggled with the shaping part of the equation. Followed your directions and boom, perfect lil’ hoagies. I’m going to try cold fermenting them next time for an even more delicious flavor, I can’t imagine them getting any better though!


Julia


How to make a Hoagie Roll

Feel good about working with yeast? You should. It’s really easy, and just don’t be afraid! You can do this!  Baking is a science, and when you add ingredients, it matters. Plus we need to discuss how humidity can affect how much water you put in.

Active Dry yeast

  1. If using Active Dry Yeast (not the Instant I use) you have to proof the yeast first. Add the Active Dry Yeast, sugar, and 1/4 cup plus 2 Tablespoons of warm water in a bowl of a stand mixer. Using a whisk or spoon, mix and set aside for 5-10 minutes or until the yeast has bubbled quite a bit.
  2. In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook (this would be the same bowl your yeast mixture is in) add 2 cups of flour and the remaining cup of water. Start on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
  3. Add in the salt and 1 cup at a time of the remaining flour and mix for 5-6 minutes until the dough is slack (See note). At this point, your mixer should be at medium speed. If your dough, after 5-6 minutes is not slack add up to 1/4 more cup of water (taking you up to a full 1 1/2 cups used) but add one Tablespoon at a time. The additional water will fully depend on how humid your room is.

Instant yeast

  1. In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook add in 2 cups of flour, water, sugar, and Instant Yeast.  Start on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
  2. Add in the salt and 1 cup at a time of the remaining flour and mix for 5-6 minutes until the dough is slack (See note). At this point, your mixer should be at medium speed. If your dough, after 5-6 minutes is not slack add up to 1/4 more cup of water (taking you up to a full 1 1/2 cups used) but add one Tablespoon at a time. The additional water will fully depend on how humid your room is.

Now, depending on the temp in the kitchen or how humid it is, you can add anywhere from 3 1/2 – 4 cups of flour. Just go slow. The worst thing you can do is add too much flour because you’re impatient. At this point, your dough should start to look and feel “Slack”

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

What is Slack Dough?

Think of a blob. It’s kind of fluid but it’s not liquidy. It’s the point where if you were to dump the dough out onto a board and try to form it into a shape, it would just blob back out and not hold a shape.

That’s what Slack Dough is. Slack dough means when the dough cannot hold a shape; it has no elasticity or spring back at all. It’s a wet dough but not too wet. It’s “billowy”. The dough is super, super soft, and smooth.

Below is what Slack dough looks like

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How Humidity affects dough and bread baking

If your bread dough never turns slack there can be 2 reasons for this

  • You didn’t mix it enough. Give it another minute or two. If it still doesn’t turn slack, add a tablespoon of water at a time until it forms slack.
  • Your house is super dry – add a bit more water.

The rule of thumb is if your area is hot & humid then reduce the liquid by 10%. Now, back to making the dough.

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  1. Once all the flour is added and the dough is slack, add in the butter one tablespoon at a time. Just like the flour, you’ll add it in slowly allowing it to incorporate into the dough. Don’t panic if it doesn’t go in all at once or the dough looks to break down. Just be patient, it’ll combine again. Patience – that’s the key.

Cold Butter or Softened Butter?

I was raised using cold butter in this recipe though you may use room temp or equal amounts of olive oil. When using cold butter, even though you ‘meld it into the flour’, you’re helping with gluten formation and the development of dough structure. I’ve made it with room-temperature butter and it works just as well. You can use either folks.

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  1. Once it’s mostly all in, turn the mixer up to medium and mix the dough until it pulls completely away from the side and is smooth and shiny.
  2. Transfer the dough to a large, lightly sprayed bowl.
  3. Cover with plastic wrap or use what I use – Disposable plastic clear shower caps. They have a stretchy band that snaps around the bowl and remains ballooned to allow the dough to proof without sticking to it.
  4. Once it’s doubled in size, it’s time to shape the hoagie rolls.

How to shape Hoagie Buns

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

  1. Punch the dough down and place on a very lightly floured board. I would advise using as little flour as possible when shaping these. The more flour you add, the tougher the hoagies will be.
  2. Divide into 4-8 pieces and shape. *See below on how to shape!
  3. Once shaped, transfer to a parchment-lined tray and cover with lightly sprayed plastic wrap. Allow to rise again until almost doubled. ~30-45 minutes. Do NOT overproof them otherwise they will fall flat.

What does Overproof mean?

In simple terms it means the dough was left to rise too long, It will almost “super balloon” in size. You’ll know you’ve over-proofed dough if, when you poke it for 2 seconds, remove your finger and see if it springs back. If your dough does not spring back, it’s over-proofed.

But that doesn’t mean all is lost. Simply remove the dough from where it was rising, degas it (meaning press down firmly on the dough to get rid of the gas), then re-shape. Place it back on your pan and repeat the second proofing.

Watch your dough – things like ambient temperature, humidity, etc will cause your dough to rise slower or faster. The 30-45 minutes is fairly standard time but you need to use your judgment in the kitchen.

TKW Family Love

I just pulled my rolls from the oven. They turned out perfectly! The recipe is very clear and easy to follow. I just tested a roll to make sure it wasn’t poisonous and ohhhhh my goodness…..soft and pillowey on the inside, and a nice soft yet chewy outside. Not chewy but a good bite to it. It is going to be perfect for my leftover prime rib to make French dip sandwiches for supper. Thank you!

Christina Jackson


Chef’s Tips on shaping hoagie rolls

Shaping does take practice, but that’s the fun of baking, right?!

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  1. After you divide the dough into your pieces (4-8), with your fingers, gently pat it into a rectangle where the dough is about 1/4″ thick.
  2. Next, fold the bottom third to the center, then fold the upper quarter (like an envelope) towards the center, and press gently to seal.
  3. Rotate the dough 180 degrees (so the last fold faces away from you), repeat the above folding step, and use your hand to seal the dough seams as you fold it. What you’re doing is folding the dough into itself.
  4. At this point, your dough is almost shaped like a log/snake. Gently cup your hand over the center of the dough and, without pressing down, roll the dough back and forth to reinforce the seal, then roll it out into a log. If necessary, gently pinch the seam closed.
  5. Grab the ends and lightly, carefully pull them outwards to stretch the dough (just an inch or so – again, depending on how long you want your rolls).
  6. To help round out the ends, cup each hand at the end of the roll and move them in opposite directions with a back-and-forth motion to roll the ends and then tuck them underneath the roll. At this point, they are ready for the next rise.

Adding Slashes/Slits

While completely not necessary, you can add slashes/slits to the rolls before they bake to give them a prettier look. Cutting them adds zero taste value; it just pretties them up. 

However, it does help with the texture. Did you ever make or buy bread that has a huge bubble or has a blowout? The bread “ruptures” in a sense. By scoring the bread, you can help control where gas can escape without ruining its appearance.

Bread Lame

A lame is a handle with a very thin razor blade at the end, specifically used for slashing bread.  In a quick motion, make a slash (or multiple slashes) down the center of the bread, but do not go in deep. You’re going in maybe a 1/4″ at best.

I use a Lame to do mine.

Can I use a sharp knife instead?

I would say no, as the blade isn’t thin enough, and the knife may not be super, SUPER sharp. You could risk tearing the bread instead of a quick, pretty slash.

Coating your rolls before baking

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You do not have to coat these if you do not want to. They will bake up beautifully and taste amazing, BUT they won’t really have that deep color, crust, or shine like the ones most pizzerias have. Again, not a bad thing. Go with what you like.

When it comes to these rolls, the application you use to coat them will determine the results. For my hoagie rolls, I use an egg white mixed with just a Tablespoon of milk

  • Whole egg: This will give your bread a sheen and color
  • Egg Yolk: This will give your bread color and will help brown it
  • Egg White: Will give you a firmer crust
  • Milk: will give your crust color
  • Butter: will make your crust softer and richer
  • Egg White with Milk: will give you a firmer crust and deeper crust color
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Cutting your hoagie rolls

At first cut, the bread insides are so soft and billowy.  It’s as if it’s held together by pockets of air and strands of sweet dough. 

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

While it’s hard to resist, I HIGHLY recommend waiting about 10 minutes before slicing into these hoagie rolls. If you don’t, you risk tearing the bread (even with the best bread knives) because it’s simply too hot and too soft inside.

Trust me on this, it’s worth the wait!

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

I would HIGHLY recommend using a quality bread knife to slice these, as the rolls are soft and chewy, and nothing is worse than cutting into them with a crappy knife! You’ll love this knife! Sani-Safe S162-8SC-PCP 8″ Scalloped Bread Knife with Polypropylene Handle Pan is a great knife that’s affordable!

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

Chef Tips About Bread Baking

  • As mentioned above, humidity and heat in your kitchen will drastically affect the dough texture (too wet/too dry while mixing) and proofing.
  • If your kitchen is warmer, your bread will rise faster. Think of bread dough like a toddler. You really can’t let it be unsupervised for very long. Use the times as a guideline, but your eyes will be your best judge.
  • If you overproof your dough, it will fall flat when it bakes. The gluten structure will be too weak to hold the gas production.
  • USE GENTLE HANDS when shaping your dough.
  • Make sure your yeast is not expired!
  • Watch your oven as it bakes. If your oven thermostat is on the fritz, it can affect your bread: either it bakes too fast, leading to burnt bread on the outside or raw bread on the inside.
  • Just relax. If you don’t get it perfect the first time, try again. Ask questions if you’re not sure what went wrong. The biggest things are:
    • Not mixing your dough enough before the first proof
    • If you’re too rough on shaping it, you lose the gas in it
    • Overproofed the 2nd shape, and the bread went flat upon baking
    • Your oven thermostat is on the fritz
  • PATIENCE – BE PATIENT and keep dumping in more flour or water. Rome wasn’t built in a day, just as the dough won’t come together in a minute or two.

There’s no limit to how you can use these hoagie rolls or what you can put in or on them.

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

How to serve Homemade Hoagie Rolls

  • Italian Rocket Hoagie or any favorite hoagie topping such as steak, meatball, cheese, pizza… you get the idea!)
  • Meatball Hoagie like the pics below – use any of my meatball recipes, top with sauce of choice, cheese, and bake at 400F for 10-15 minutes or until the cheese is melted
  • French Bread Pizza – split in half, top each side with cheese and pizza toppings. Bake at 400F until the cheese is melted
  • Stuffed Breakfast Boats – these were such a HUGE seller at our pizzeria (even though they were on the ‘secret’ menu
  • Make them smaller as dinner rolls and, while still warm, top with honey cinnamon butter right before serving

How to store your Best Soft and Chewy Hoagie Rolls

Store them uncut.  When you’re storing overnight, you’ll want to store it in a paper bag OR, wrapped tightly in plastic wrap and then in a plastic bag. Air is your enemy here.

The Best Soft & Chewy Hoagie Bread Roll

How to Freeze Hoagie Rolls

These rolls can be frozen either before or after baking.

Post-baking

  • I prefer to freeze these after they are baked. Simply wrap each cooled loaf in plastic wrap twice and place it in a freezer-safe bag for up to 3 months.

Pre-baking

  1. If you do this, add a little more yeast (about a teaspoon more) to the recipe. This ensures that the post-freeze rise will give you a stunning result.
  2. Allow the dough to proof and then shape it on a parchment-lined pan.
  3. Wrap the pan with plastic wrap. Once each loaf is frozen stiff, wrap each roll twice in plastic wrap. Store in a freezer-safe bag for up to 6 months.
  4. To use frozen dough rolls, remove a loaf from the freezer the night before you want to bake it. Keep the loaf wrapped in plastic and let it thaw overnight in the refrigerator.
  5. Place the thawed dough in a greased bread pan, cover it, and let it rise in a warm, dry place. Bake the bread per the recipe below.
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Cold Fermenting Your Dough

If you want, you can also cold-ferment this dough as soon as it comes together!

  1. Once the mixture is combined and forms a soft/smooth bread ball, you can add it to a buttered bowl/lidded large container and refrigerate it overnight.
  2. The next day, remove the container from the fridge to perform the first rise. Then, punch down, shape, and allow it to proof a second time. *Note: it will take longer to rise initially as it will be cold.

Subbing Sourdough Starter

I get asked this question a lot. I never use sourdough starter in this recipe, as I love it as-is; however, you can substitute sourdough starter with some recipe modifications.

  • 8 ounces of ripened sourdough starter
  • Reduce the total flour to 334-339 grams
  • Reduce the total water to 177-237 grams
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Using Whole Wheat Flour

So the answer is yes, but you have to modify it and play with the texture to get it right. Let me explain.

  1. You only use 3/4 cup of whole wheat for every 1 cup of flour substituted. AND,
  2. I’ve yet to use all whole wheat and am loving the flavor. I currently recommend substituting 50% whole wheat for the rest of the flour (again, using the measurements in step 1). AND,
  3. You’ll need to add another 2 Tablespoons of water for every 3/4 cup of whole wheat flour added.
  4. And don’t forget to factor in humidity, too.

I have yet to have an OMG YUM moment when making the recipe with a 100% whole wheat swap. It’s still too dense for my liking. Then again, 100% wheat bread tends to be thick in general (at least in my experience).

I’m still working on it, but I’m confident I can nail it and achieve the results I want and love.

TKW Family Love

Ok, since finding this recipe a few weeks ago, I have made these at least once a week. I have made many many bread recipes before, but nothing that my family ever requested so much! Seriously, this recipe is amazing! And so forgiving! I’ve added extra flour, and too much water and I’ve tried every wash possible (our favorite is whole egg) and each time they are just outstanding. I’ve shared this post with quite a few friends as well. I’ll never buy rolls again.

Lauren


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The BEST soft and chewy bread roll for hoagies/submarine/grinders. Pillowy soft rolls that are begging to be filled with deliciousness!

  • Author: The Kitchen Whisperer
  • Prep Time: 2 hours
  • Cook Time: 25 minutes
  • Total Time: 2 hours 25 minutes
  • Yield: 4-8 rolls depending on how big you want them
  • Category: Bread
  • Method: oven
  • Cuisine: baking

Ingredients

  • 3 1/2 – 4 cups bread flour/448-512 grams *see note
  • 1 1/4 cups plus 2 tablespoon – 1 1/2 cups warm water (110-115F degrees) / 308-355 grams *see note
  • 2 Tablespoons / 25 grams of sugar
  • 1 packet instant yeast (2 1/4 teaspoon of RedStar Platinum Yeast) / 7 grams
  • 1 teaspoon kosher salt / 6 grams
  • 4 Tablespoons / 56 grams cold unsalted butter, cubed *see note

Instructions

Using Active Dry Yeast? Start here

  1. If using Active Dry Yeast (not the Instant I use), you have to proof the yeast first. Add the Active Dry Yeast, sugar, and 1/4 cup plus 2 tablespoons of warm water in the bowl of a stand mixer.
  2. Using a whisk or spoon, mix and set aside for 5-10 minutes or until the yeast has bubbled quite a bit.
  3. In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook (this would be the same bowl your yeast mixture is in) add 2 cups of flour and the remaining cup of water. Start on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
  4. Go to Step 1 of Recipe Continuation and follow the rest of the recipe

Using Instant Yeast? Start here

  1. In the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the dough hook, add in 2 cups of flour, water, sugar, and Instant Yeast.  Start off on low. Mix for 4 minutes.
  2. Go to Step 1 of Recipe Continuation and follow the rest of the recipe.

Recipe Continuation

  1. Add in the salt and 1 cup at a time of the remaining flour and mix for 5-6 minutes until the dough is slack (See note). At this point, your stand mixer should be at medium speed. If your dough is not slack after 5-6 minutes, add up to 1/4 more cup of water (up to a full 1 1/2 cups), but do so one Tablespoon at a time. The additional water will entirely depend on how humid your room is.
  2. Add in the butter 1 Tablespoon at a time and mix until almost fully melded in before adding the next Tablespoon.  In total, mix for 1-3 minutes, or until the dough comes back together and pulls completely away from the sides, leaving a smooth, shiny surface. Remove from bowl and transfer to a greased, covered bowl until doubled in size. ~1 hour.
  3. Punch the dough down and place it on a very lightly floured board. Divide into 4-8 pieces and shape. I would advise using as little flour as possible when shaping these. The more flour you add, the tougher the hoagies will be. Transfer to a parchment-lined tray and cover with lightly sprayed plastic wrap. Allow to rise again until almost doubled. ~30-45 minutes. Do NOT overproof them; they will fall flat.
  4. Preheat the oven to 375°F/190°C. If you want to slash your bread, use a lame to make your slashes. If desired, brush with a coating of choice and bake for 16-23 minutes or until golden brown. To ensure doneness, test the internal temperature of the bread. It should be at 200°F/93°C.
  5. Allow to cool before cutting with a quality bread knife ( Sani-Safe S162-8SC-PCP 8″ Scalloped Bread Knife with Polypropylene Handle Pan )

Notes

Flour & Water

Depending on the type of bread flour as well as how humid your kitchen is you may need to increase the water to 1 1/2 cups (which is only another 2 tablespoons more than the original). At times I’ve had to actually go up to 1 3/4 cups total but that was due to how humid my house was at the time.

Cold Butter

I was raised using cold butter in this recipe though you may use softened or equal amounts of olive oil. When using cold butter, even though you ‘meld it into the flour’, you’re helping with gluten formation and the development of dough structure.

Slack Dough

Slack dough means when the dough cannot hold a shape; it has no elasticity or spring back at all. It’s a wet dough but not too wet. It’s “billowy”. The dough is super, super soft, and smooth.

Equipment

I would HIGHLY recommend using a quality bread knife to slice these as the rolls are soft and chewy and nothing is worse when cutting into them with a crappy knife! You’ll love this knife! Sani-Safe S162-8SC-PCP 8″ Scalloped Bread Knife with Polypropylene Handle Pan

Coating your bread

  • Whole egg: this will give your bread a sheen and color
  • Egg Yolk: this will give your bread color and will help brown it
  • Egg White: Will give you a firmer crust
  • Milk: will give your crust color
  • Butter: will make your crust softer and richer

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  1. Connie
    March 14, 2017

    Made these last night for the first time for Philly Cheese Steak Sandwiches. I can’t tell you how skeptical I was about making yet another version of a hoagie bun that would either come out dry, hard, or both. I have been desperate to find a recipe that I can make myself instead of buying from the store in a package where half of them end up being thrown away before they can be used.
    I have found THE recipe I have been looking for! I was so worried the entire time they were rising… I must have checked their status 20 times before I deemed them ready for the oven. When they came out of the oven they were beautiful! They were soft! I just couldn’t wait to cut one open, but I did wait until they cooled down. The inside of this roll was phenomenal! I was so excited to serve my husband his sandwich….
    Quick note about my husband. He eats to stay alive. For no other reason does he eat. He never comments how much he likes what I make… it just isn’t that important to him. Last night I was holding my breath… and..he took his first bite. I actually heard him groan. He loved it and he told me so!!! What an accomplishment.
    This is the first time I have ever commented on a recipe. I just wanted to tell you how grateful I am to have such a great recipe as this.

    I followed the recipe exactly as you have written. The only thing I needed to tweek was adding a bit more water in the end to slacken the dough a bit more. Other than that, there were no other issues. I only baked 2 buns and froze the others for future use. ( I can’t trust myself with fresh bread sitting around)…
    Thank you again for such a great recipe!

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    1. TKWAdmin
      March 16, 2017

      On Connie I wish you could see my face right now by the huge smile I have on it (well okay maybe not exactly right now as I look like a cross between Medusa with my hair all over the place and the Swedish Chef from the Muppets with flour all over my face! LOL). I’m so truly touched by your comments and the fact that your husband loved them so much. You are so like me when I make something new for my husband… I hold my breath waiting for his response. So thank you again 🙂

      Yes the water is about the only thing you have to tweak as it honestly depends by what the temp is in your kitchen and the humidity level.

      Thank you again so much for such a touching comment!

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

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      1. Connie
        March 17, 2017

        I made them again yesterday just to see if it was a fluke that I ended up with something so great. It-was-not… a fluke.I shaped two of them into the standard hoagie bun (for our yet again unhealthy dinner because I just couldn’t stand not having another one so soon) lol and the rest I made into hotdog buns for the kids this weekend. I noticed in one of the comments someone asking if they could use these for hamburger/hotdog buns. I know usually a homemade bun takes an egg in the dough to make it heartier. This recipe will work fine if you just bake them a few minutes sooner rather than letting them rise for quite as long as a hoagie bun. I think I baked the hotdog buns at about 30 minutes of rising while my hoagies continued to rise while the hotdog buns baked. The HD buns turned out awesome… and are strong enough to hold a hotdog with toppings like chili and cheese.They are still plenty soft and fluffy as well.
        Again I got a compliment out of my husband last night! He even ate half of one of the hot dog buns with nothing on it just because he said this bread was so good!
        I’m quite certain this will probably be my go to dough for just about everything.
        Just so very excited! and… getting fatter! lol

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        1. TKWAdmin
          March 18, 2017

          Oh Miss Connie you, again made my evening. Thank you so much! That’s awesome to hear they turned out a 2nd time as awesome as the first and that you made them as hotdog buns. Great idea! Try this dough next time for breadsticks… or even stuff it like a pepperoni roll. This is one of my favorite doughs!

          Best Kitchen Wishes!

          Reply
    2. Christine F
      April 13, 2017

      Eats to live! LOL! Sounds exactly like my husband. Trying these today. Hoping to get the same result 🙂

      Reply
      1. TKWAdmin
        April 15, 2017

        LOL Hey Christine:) I’m sure you nailed it!

        Best Kitchen Wishes!

        Reply
  2. Deb
    February 21, 2017

    Made these this weekend and they were amazing, We ate only two and I put the rest in a ziplock bag on the counter. Next day used them for sausage sandwiches and they were already drying out. I realize no preservatives but can you make any storage solutions or way to avoid only getting one day use out of them? Would love to be able to use threes for my husbands packed lunches, Thanks! LOVE your recipes!

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      February 28, 2017

      Hey Deb! Hmmm typically mine last 3 days in an air tight bag. I would also try wrapping them in plastic wrap then in the plastic bag. Also if you want to make them for the lunches keep them in the fridge too. That’ll help also!

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
  3. jules
    February 16, 2017

    I’ve triedmany bun and roll recipes but haven’t found one I love until now. These turned out great. Thanks

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      February 18, 2017

      That’s awesome to hear; thank you!!!

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
  4. l kruse
    February 13, 2017

    This one’s a keeper! Made these for French dips and they were excellent, but veered off course of instructions like this:
    1) Mixed 1 cup water, yeast, and sugar in a small bowl to rise about 10 minutes.
    2) Placed flour & salt in Kitchenaid bowl, then added melted butter and 1/2 cup hot water. Mixed together with beater for 1 minute, just until combined.
    3) Added bubbly water/yeast/sugar mixture to flour mixture and mixed until all incorporated.
    4) Changed from beater to dough hook and kneaded for 3 minutes with speed at 8.

    Call me lazy or efficient, I don’t care, but this was super easy and my family all wants these again!

    (I also added 2 tsp onion powder, 1 tsp garlic powder, & 1 tsp basil – yummy with French dip!)

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    1. TKWAdmin
      February 15, 2017

      HAHAHA hey if it works for you, awesome! Love your adaptation! I’m just thrilled that you love them! And I do the same thing with the seasonings too!

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
  5. Brigette
    February 9, 2017

    I bake bread multiple times a week, but when I tried this recipe once before it didn’t go well. I was concerned the dough was too dry and I had kneaded it for too long, and since it was not slack the butter did not incorporate well. Since there were so many great reviews, I really wanted to give this a second try. I live in southern California and ended up needing to add quite a few tablespoons more of warm water than directed, which I added before the salt step. That did the trick and the rolls came out great! Seeing the recently added picture links in the comments helped a lot too. These rolls will make a mean shrimp poboy.

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    1. TKWAdmin
      February 9, 2017

      Hi Brigette!

      Yes where folks live, the humidity and house temp can really play on the slack/wetness of the dough. But great thinking to add more warm water in!

      I’m thrilled these turned out awesome for you as I absolutely love these rolls! And yes they rock a po’boy!

      When you make one snap a pic and tag us in it or use hashtag #thekitchenwhisperer I’d love to see yours!

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
  6. Janica
    February 2, 2017

    These look so good! I am trying to make the dough – but I am having some issues…I was wondering if the remaining cup of water needs to be 110-115 degrees, and does it matter if it is added before or after the flour?

    Also – if the dough isn’t slack enough – the TBLs of water added later to try to help it be slack, would that be warm water or regular temp water is fine?

    This would help me out a lot!

    Thanks!

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      February 2, 2017

      Hi Janica!

      Yes the remaining cup of water needs to be 110-115 degrees and when you add it you add it when you add in the flour.

      If after 5-6 minutes the dough is just not turning slack, yes the water should be warm like above. It helps with the yeast. The hardest part of this recipe in all honesty is learning that it does take some time to get it to a slack consistency. The elements in your house can affect the time – too hot, too cold, too humid… it’s like a veritable 3 Little bears story. Once you find what’s right in your house, it’ll work seamlessly.

      For guidance, check out these 2 links on what slack dough should look like. https://www.thekitchenwhisperer.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/slackdough.jpg or https://www.thekitchenwhisperer.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/slackdough1.jpg

      Just be patient and you’ll get there 🙂

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
      1. KarenB
        February 2, 2017

        Looking at the pictures of the “slack ” dough (did you make up that word? Lol) the first picture looks like something I just cleaned up from my puppy accident lol but I see how it looks like it needs flour…is that what you mean?

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  7. Mike
    January 19, 2017

    I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but I’ve tried this twice and both times have had issues with getting to “slack” dough. I measured the ingredients as accurately as I could. one cup plus 3 oz of water (1 3/8 cups). When mixing (before adding the salt) the dough comes together quickly. It is not soft at all. I mixed it well past the 6 minutes listed in the recipe hoping that it would loosen up, but it never does. I’m thinking I’m doing something wrong, but I don’t know what. Any ideas?

    Should the dough be very wet when initially mixing the flour and water? Maybe I just need more water to loosen things up.

    Thanks!

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      January 20, 2017

      Hi Mike,

      I’m working on trying to create a video of making this recipe. I think it’s one that you kind of have to “see” what the slack dough looks like. However when it comes to creating videos it’s brand new to me so I’m learning that process. Now on to the dough, depending on where you live you may need to add a bit more water. Outside items like humidity and temperature can greatly affect dough – even as much as the water itself. So if it’s not slack add a few Tbl more water until it becomes slack. Your dough should looks like this:

      https://www.thekitchenwhisperer.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/slackdough.jpg or https://www.thekitchenwhisperer.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/slackdough1.jpg

      See how they are billowy and really don’t hold a shape? They are almost blobish. If after 6 minutes you don’t get that add more water. Just watch that you don’t overwork the dough as it will turn out super dense and instead of making bread you’ll make a rock.

      Now if you lived in Pittsburgh and new how to make videos I’d show you in person for helping me make these videos 🙂

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
      1. KarenB
        February 2, 2017

        Lori, does it matter what the elevation of where you live or the type of flour you use? Some swear by bread flour or King Arthur and others use just generic store brand AP flour b

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      2. Mike
        February 3, 2017

        Thank you for the pictures. That helps. I think that I’ll need to add quite a bit more water to get that consistency. I’ll try again soon.

        Even though things didn’t work exactly like the recipe, the rolls were a hit with when I served cheesesteaks to my family. Everyone was happy 🙂

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    2. Lee
      March 30, 2017

      I’m with you, Mike. Mine didn’t hardly give me a chance to see that it needed more water – it almost immediately combined into one big, very stretchy lump that tried to climb out of my mixer bowl. Really dense, too. I added tiny bits more of warm water later, but then it stuck to everything but was still impossible to combine the butter into the loaf (I ended up doing by hand but it was still difficult to work with). I’m baking my rolls now hoping they turn out at least edible, as they did seem more promising after first rise. 🙂 But I will try this recipe again with more H20 earlier in the process.

      Reply
  8. THOMAS TUBENS
    January 16, 2017

    In order to top rolls w/ herbs do I brush tops w/ butter or eggs & when do I brush them ? Thanks in advance.

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      January 17, 2017

      Hi Thomas,

      Brush them with an egg wash and add the herbs BEFORE baking. Eggs will give it a shine, milk/butter will give it a darker color (brown it).

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
  9. KarenB
    January 2, 2017

    Made prime rib last night and wanted French dip but no hoagie rolls and did not want to go to the store. Thus, had everything to make these and threw it all in the bread machine. Hopefully it comes out as good as yours look!

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      January 2, 2017

      Hey Karen,

      You got this! The biggest thing is you have to make sure the dough is slack (see the notes for what Slack means/looks like). If you have that, you’ll have a super soft and chewy roll. Let me know how it goes!

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
      1. KarenB
        January 2, 2017

        Hi Lori!
        It turned out beautiful. The rolls are rising now with a flour sack dish towel on top of it. Probably 10 more minutes. Then they’ll be popped in the oven. I will snap a pic for FB and post when all done.

        Reply
  10. Delle
    December 29, 2016

    Glad i found this recipe.I want to try make some philly cheesesteaks.My question is that i only have bread machine yeast,will it work with the quantity listed.

    Thanks

    Reply
    1. TKWAdmin
      December 29, 2016

      Hi Delle,

      How big is your bread machine?

      Best Kitchen Wishes!

      Reply
      1. Delle
        December 29, 2016

        Its a Cuisinart convection bread maker with 3 settings 1lb 1 1/2lb and 2lb.

        Thanks

        Reply
        1. TKWAdmin
          December 30, 2016

          Hi Delle!

          If yours goes up to 2lbs you should be fine. I know many on here use their bread machine to make the dough with much success.

          Best Kitchen Wishes!

          Reply
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